Nice to see BP got into the e car charging, I usually buy their gas.
Carl2

While I share your mistrust, Data, I think that in the end this will actually be a net benefit for the EV market, as this will give the petrol companies something to transition to from oil, which will also serve to eventually wrest pricing control away from the middle east. With "Big Oil" getting involved on the supply side of things, ICE vehicles will go the way of the dinosaur a bit more quickly, I think. Or perhaps I'm reading this wrong?

Yes it is possible that you are right Dave, I really hope so, maybe it will push the oil companies to invest in more renewable energy, I guess if they use the profits from their oil to do it then it's not all bad, they will have to do something as the years go by or they too will end up like the dinosaurs. 

  From what I've read Shell oil is already making stations for e cars,
"Electric car charging points could appear alongside petrol pumps at Shell's UK service stations as soon as next year, the oil giant confirmed after emails between the company and government officials revealed discussions on introducing them. date 2016"
Carl2

Interesting. Years back people used to say that the big oil companies were suppressing anything that didn't use oil or petrol. Was that all just conspiracy theories or not do we think ? Or was it that it just took time to engineer something usable ?

Quote from: Carl2 on July 01, 2018, 11:27:42 AM
  From what I've read Shell oil is already making stations for e cars,
"Electric car charging points could appear alongside petrol pumps at Shell's UK service stations as soon as next year, the oil giant confirmed after emails between the company and government officials revealed discussions on introducing them. date 2016"
Carl2

Yes but it's the cost of the electricity Carl, ok the convenience of charging at a petrol station might be worth a bit but at the moment it's about 3 times the price to charge at Shell compared to charging at home. This is what I have been trying to point out, the oil companies could start to increase the price even more making it no cheaper to run an EV, then people will just keep buying ICE. 


Freddy, you didn't watch the video we posted then ?

Who Killed The Electric Car?

http://evtopia.org/watch-killed-electric-car-full-video-online/

I'm not going to say for sure that it was the oil companies, we need to make up our own minds on this.

  I've seen something similar, a bit long I put it in favorites and will watch it latter. 
Carl2

I didn't watch that video no Data, I will take a look 

  I was watching a video about AI and began thinking about the e cars and some of the crashes they have been in using the autonomous mode.  Upsetting to think we have given an e car the ability to kill. 
Carl2

Fully self driving cars are still in their infancy and illegal to use on the roads unless they have special permission, I'm not too worried about it giving EV's a bad name. I personally think all the autonomous modes of driving still have a way to go until they become acceptable to the public in general. 

Moving on, this story has been going around the web for a couple of days now:

QuoteNissan Leaf prototype with new 60 kWh battery pack leaked fast-charging at 102 kW

https://electrek.co/2018/07/06/nissan-leaf-prototype-new-battery-pack-leaked-fast-charging/

Some live Fully Charged vids to watch, when the time is right 

Some research has been done here about who does and who doesn't want electric cars, it's not really very surprising but it seems the younger generation are the ones that want EV's.

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Half of young people in the UK would like to own an electric car – compared with just a quarter of their parents, a survey suggests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44798135 

A nice little Fully Charged vid.

Why Megatrends Trump Politics

Just going to drop the latest Fully Charged news vid in here, apparently the UK  broke its solar record this summer (for a little while) with a huge 28% of power coming from solar alone. 

I can't let this go buy without mentioning it 

Pikes Peak record smashed by 16 seconds with only a 500 HP EV.

Dave, hope you pop in to see this