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PC build with M.2 support

Started by Data, August 31, 2015, 11:33:53 AM

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Data

Carl2 was asking about a build with M.2 support, so here is one, no I'm not being funny, this would make a great little PC  :)

So build 1:

Only going to post Mobo, CPU, RAM and SSD.

Mobo ASUS Z97-P $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132229R

CPU Intel Core i3-4330 $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116945

RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144

SSD SAMSUNG SM951 M.2 128GB $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147431

Total $404

Carl2

Data,
  First thanks for taking the time and nice of you to go with newegg, my #1 source for parts.  It would be interesting to see how your configuration would work.  Yesterday and today I've actually been doing the same thing but I have to spend a little time getting definitions for some different things like how many lanes does the CPU use.

   Intel Core i7-5820K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.3GHz LGA 2011-v3   389 since  it's only 50 more than a quad
    MSI X99A Raider LGA 2011-v3 Intel                          199
    MSI GeForce GTX 960 GTX 960 4GD5T OC 4GB          229
    SAMSUNG SM951 M.2 256GB PCI-Express 3.0            219
    CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB)                  119
                                                                                 1155

seems we still need a case, power supply, dvd, I don't have a monitor for it  or even a place to put it 
Carl2

Data

#2
Your bits look good Carl2, should all work together, I think the RAM you chose is DDR4 which is correct for that Mobo.

Data

I found this interesting video, shows some benchmarks of the M.2 speeds and I learnt something too, the Z97 chipset will only really reach about double the speed of SATA because the M.2 slot is only PCIe 2 where as on the X99 the slot is PCIe 3.

The guy doesn't like the word bottleneck either, he says it's noob talk but he does like to say 'MegaBits' most of the time when it's actually MegaBytes. I guess no one is perfect. 

Anyway check out some of these speeds  :o

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Carl2

  Watched the video twice, have to look again latter, I'm still thinking PCI while he is talking the M.2, but I did go back and look at the MSI again
"1 x M.2 port, supports up to 32Gb/s speed**"  and then
"** Intel RST does not support PCIe M.2 SSD with Legacy ROM."
   Only 12 products offered, Intel has nothing showing yet.  In case you need some reading material
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested
  Forgot the cooling
Carl2

Data

#5
Quote from: Carl2 on August 31, 2015, 22:23:06 PM
"1 x M.2 port, supports up to 32Gb/s speed**" 

That is correct, as long as the mobo has  "M.2 port, supporting up to 32Gb/s" it will give you the full speed of these new SSD's.

This isn't really anything to do with the CPU, it's the PCIe which is controlled by the motherboard. There are limitations when you want more than one graphics card but as you will only be wanting one graphics card it will all work fine on any of the CPU's that fit in the X99 motherboard  :thumbsup:


Carl2

  I'm seeing differences in how the data is specified between the M.2 and the PCI Express 3.  The M.2 says 540Mbs and the PCI says 2150 Mbs.
I don't think they would be introducing new motherboards and all if there wasn't some reason for improvement.  I'm still thinking the majority of the people I know just buy a laptop with a standard hard drive. It's all still pretty new but a 6 core is now within reach, and a move to water cooling.   Don't think you'd be able to buy this type of setup.
  Freddy seems to be the closest to trying this out, see if you can get him to make a video of a boot up.
Carl2

Data

Carl2

The M.2 port supports both SATA 540MBs and PCIe 2150 MBs, just make sure you by the PCIe version of the SSD and you will be good to go at full speed, it's really that simple.  :)

Obviously you will need an X99 chipset motherboard.

Snowcrash

Is this a 'B' 'b' thing? (bytes, bits)

540MBs = 4320Mbs
"I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me."

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Data

Snowy I'm trying to help Carl2 here if you would be so kind.

QuoteThe Samsung SM951 is currently available in three capacities, 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB. In terms of speeds, the 128GB can provide up to 2,050MB/s read and 600MB/s write

http://www.thessdreview.com/our-reviews/samsung-sm951-m-2-pcie-ssd-review-512gb/

Snowcrash

I read more. Ignore my comment.

And wow. Impressive data rates. Interesting article.
"I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me."

Ralph Waldo Emerson

Freddy

Quote from: Carl2 on September 01, 2015, 13:14:20 PM
  Freddy seems to be the closest to trying this out, see if you can get him to make a video of a boot up.
Carl2

I'm close but have yet to try the cigar. I'm saving for a GPU at the moment.

Carl2

  Saving, I was going to say this is a nation of credit but your in England.
Meant as a joke,  I came across 2 gaming computers 1800 and 2000 yesterday, 6 cores with the X99 Intel chipset.  There are more motherboards and more computers today.  An 8 core going for 4000. Must be quite the computer, I'm wondering why you're not going with the Dual GPU  but then again it might cut down on the speed of the SSD.
Carl2

Freddy

This topic got split to here : How green are we ?

Quoting Data to get back on topic....

QuoteBringing this back on topic.

Average power consumption of these new M.2 SSD's is around  4.7 Watts but they can peak to a massive 7.2 under full load  :o

Carl2

  A lot has gone on while I was at Toms hardware,  interesting article about the power and temps the gpus.  I also spent a little time looking at computer cases and also found we can use the pci express SSD's with the older computers although the newer motherboards offer the best speeds.  Actually looking for a case with a card reader for the camera and I do need a new camera.   It's hard to believe a new computer now cost more than I paid for a brand new car I purchased so many years ago.
Carl2