Open letters or petitions can work. I've signed a few things, we just had a success with getting Tesco to ban plastic straws.

Imagine how many frustrated gamers there are out there.

I noticed that the miners don't use any of the out-puts ( HDMI or DVI ) on the cards, AMD and NVidia could probably make some cut down cards for the miners that are just number crunchers, they could probably get away with less VRam, no out-puts and some other components could be removed.

They wouldn't even be graphics cards, maybe that could help the situation.

Just a thought.   

Actually, I think you might just be onto something there, Data, though I'm quite certain that someone else has already thought of it. Still, making cards that are purpose-built for mining would likely cost less to make (though only slightly so) and have a lower power requirement (though again, only slightly lower) than standard cards. the problem there is the R&D cost, and the cost of tooling up a production line, which would mean a considerable investment, and one that would be guaranteed to be a limited run, even if that run is millions of units over the span of a few years. Plus, they would have to hire a new workforce of skilled workers. My guess is that nobody wants to take the risk of a short-lived bubble.

Only a rumour : https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/03/07/rumor-motherboard-maker-asrock-to-produce-amd-based-mining-gpus/

The DRAM shortage he mentions doesn't help.

Good find Freddy 

I'm not saying they will do it but they should consider making number crunching cards, looks like it might happen.

It shouldn't be that hard to make them, they are quick at making new cards when a new GPU is released and they are always bringing out tweaked versions of cards. They could do it quite easily, I reckon.

Yeah it certainly seems like something they could do. I don't know how bad this DRAM shortage is this time. Wasn't it a factory getting flooded a few years ago that caused the last hike ? In my mind I think RAM was about double what I was expecting to pay for M&Ds machine.

I can't see crypto currency going away in the short term, there's a lot of money piled into it. Dave says a bubble and yes I think that's probably right, but still maybe long enough for the big players to take advantage of it, and in doing so free up our precious GPUs. So glad I got in quick this time around.

NVIDIA - Founders Edition GeForce GTX 1070 8GB  $429,  I just found this at Best Buy, I'll call latter when they open it they have it I'll buy it.  The 1080 is 589 but I'll settle for the 1070, at last some reasonable prices.
Carl2

  I couldn't get a person when calling Best Buy so I stopped in.  It wasn't on the counter and couldn't be ordered.  To good to be true is it seems.
Walmart now has a better selection than before on graphic cards.  I'll wait a while longer and if worse comes to worst I'll go with the 1060  Everything just gets old and useless anyways.

You know how I feel about a GPU for your PC Carl, you don't need one, saying that the 1060 would be easily good enough for you.

QuoteIf you are a PC enthusiast or gamer who has been putting off a GPU upgrade due to current market pricing we might have some good news for you.

https://hexus.net/business/news/components/116612-amd-stock-downgraded-due-imminent-eth-asic-miner-release/

I'm beginning to think prices are coming down and a greater selection is in stock, EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 GAMING, 8GB GDDR5, DX12  for $470 at Newegg sold and shipped by Spytech, also it has a blower motor so the heat is blown out of the case.  There was a time when you couldn't even find a 1070.  A good 1060 6 Gb sells for 439, this has two fans but getting all the hot air out of the case could be difficult.
Carl2

Prices were down when I looked for my card on Amazon the other day too.

What does the GPU do with the temps in your case, if I remember right you use water cooling where I use air cooling.  The AMD Vega's are still pricy and Nvidia is coming out with new models. 
Carl2

It doesn't add much to the temp as it's the sort of cooler that vents directly out the back. My chassis temps were about 24-26C when I had the thermometer, probably about the same now. I went for the vented heat as I use it for rendering and didn't want the heat left in the case as it could be rendering up to an hour or more on some things, especially animations.

The only thing that is water cooled in my PC is the CPU.

Yes the prices may have gone down a bit, but they are still far too much to pay atm.

  So it has a blower fan and is what I'm looking at, it is said they will run a little hotter but is good because it moves the heat out of the case.  If you consider these cards are old the prices are high but over all they are available now, I hope the trend continues.
Carl2