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Started by Carl2, March 29, 2010, 15:10:12 PM

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Data

Better to have it throttle back under extreme loads than kill it's self, not ideal I know but I don't think it would put me off getting one, if I had the mobo and the cash. 

Carl2

   Well after reinstalling Win 10 using a flash drive I'm thinking Data is years ahead of his time,  it is my belief the whole computer system is still set up to use the DVD as a repair or setup media.  I'm thinking of copying the flash drive onto a DVD just in case I need a repair in the future instead of playing around in bios setting up the usb. 
  Just as standard hard drives are being installed in the majority of computers DVD and in some cases Blue rays are also being installed and I don't think this will be changed any time soon.
Carl2

Data

Not sure I am ahead of time really, the modern way is SSD and flash drives, spinners are on their way out, if we like it or not  :)

Quote from: Carl2 on October 19, 2015, 13:32:36 PM
It is my belief the whole computer system is still set up to use the DVD as a repair or setup media.

No I think you are wrong Carl2 sorry, that can all be done with a flash drive.

Windows 10 - Creating a Windows 10 Repair Boot USB Recovery Drive





Freddy

Quote from: Data on October 19, 2015, 11:35:36 AM
Better to have it throttle back under extreme loads than kill it's self, not ideal I know but I don't think it would put me off getting one, if I had the mobo and the cash. 

Well my renders can be over 20 minutes... I'm not sure if it use RAM or disk though.

Data

It will use RAM and disk, that's how computers work mate  ;D

There is no way it's going to push the SSD to maximum, it's going to drop little bits of data to the SSD in little packs from the render engine. That's how these things normally work.

At 1800MBs (the M.2 top speed give or take) you could copy 216 GB in 2 mins, are your renders around 200GB in size ?


DaveMorton

Safe, Reliable Insanity, Since 1961!

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Data

Done a bit of research on the M.2 heat Throttling Issues, it would seem that if you have a good air flow inside the PC, especially around where the M.2 is located that you shouldn't get any throttling issues.

QuoteWe don’t think you need to go out and buy heatsinks and cooling fans for your M.2 PCIe SSD as good airflow is enough to keep it from throttling.

http://www.legitreviews.com/samsung-sm951-512gb-m-2-pcie-ssd-review_161689/3

But if you want to be extra careful you can put some of these on the M.2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Copper-Memory-Chipset-Heatsinks-Thermal/dp/B00KBMB76I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415898916&sr=8-1

You would need to remove the M.2 label though and stick them on with some thermal glue. Which would probably void the warranty.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermal-Conductive-Heatsink-Adhesive-Compound/dp/B00KBNWKSQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445338865&sr=8-1



Freddy

Well researched.  :thumbsup:

I think I will wait a while for the price to come down a bit though.

Carl2

 M.2 heat Throttling Issues, very interesting, never realized this was an issue.  So the first thing we do is void the warranty,  not sure how many times I've done that.
Carl2

Data

I don't think I would put the heatsinks on the M.2 just make sure there is plenty of air flow.

Here is a good video I found, explains the correct (modern) way to install windows onto an M.2.

I noticed all other drives must be disconnected when installing windows on UEFI BIOS if you want a secure boot, that includes all other SSD's HDD's and DVD / Blu Ray drives. Not a problem for me, I have always removed the other drives during an install, you should do. 


Carl2

Intel+NVME+SSD+Review,  I was just watching this review, it's on you tube but I was unable to get a link that worked.  I guess its is NVME that actually gets the SSD up to speed. You would have to watch the vid to see what the reviewer is talking about.
Carl2

DaveMorton

How about this one, Carl?

Safe, Reliable Insanity, Since 1961!

Carl2

Dave
  That's the video, for me it seems to explain all that's going on with the quickest SSD's.  It would be nice to be working with these drives but In the meantime I'm still working with the slower Sata which is somewhat quick.  Manufactures are still using regular hard drives with a few of the higher priced ones using Sata 3, I still haven't seen any offered using a M.2 drive never mind the NVME.
Carl2