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Heavens Above => Aviation => Topic started by: DD1975 on February 14, 2012, 20:00:43 PM

Title: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 14, 2012, 20:00:43 PM
Well why not kick off the new boards first new topic with one of my favorite aircraft of all time, the long serving and exteremely pretty Hawker Hunter:



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Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: Diesel on February 14, 2012, 20:52:37 PM
Wow, not seen one of those for years. However, can we get the name right please.  :'(
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 14, 2012, 21:09:26 PM
Lost me there Diesel......That's the Hawker Hunter famous for the Tower Bridge Incident in 1968.

Or were you refering to my earlier (corrected) typo of Haker?
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: Diesel on February 14, 2012, 22:31:21 PM
Would I be right in assuming you mean a Hawker Siddeley Hunter.
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 14, 2012, 22:57:56 PM
Yes & no

Yes in that is the correct name of the company

No as in that the aircraft were never known as "Hawker Siddeley"

You don't call the Hurricane a Hawker Siddeley, although technically it should correctly be known as one, nor the Typhoon, Tempest or Fury but I get your point  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 14, 2012, 23:05:15 PM
Here you go, Hawker Aircraft were a subsidiary of Hawker Siddeley Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley)

And a list of Hawker aircraft:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Aircraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Aircraft)

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Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: sybershot on February 15, 2012, 03:33:14 AM
That is one sweet ride  :D
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 15, 2012, 19:53:08 PM
Yes it is Sybershot in my rose tinted glasses it's probably the prettiest fighter aircraft ever made........but that is a personal opinion.

And in reference to my earlier post for those that aren't aware in 1968 an RAF pilot in celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Royal Air Force and in protest against the current governments defence cuts a pilot decided to perform an aerobatic display over central London culminating in flying between the Pedestrian walkways and the roadbridge of Tower Bridge:

He was medically discharged from the RAf to prevent a court martial and his views being aired which would have been embarrassing to the government, in 1982 he was partially exonerated as it was discovered he was likely suffering from hypoxia due to a faulty oxygen supply.



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Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: Diesel on February 15, 2012, 20:52:22 PM
Having reread my earlier post, I realise I was being pedantic, for this I apologise.

As the Son of a Late ROC Officer, it was drummed into me, from an early age, how to identify Aircraft from their silhouette alone, with full and correct name so as to avoid confusion.

To revisit some of these wonderful Aircraft is truly a joy. My Father would have loved this.

BTW,  :sign-nice-thread:
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 15, 2012, 20:58:49 PM
Not at all Diesel, Pedantic is good as it leads to discussion in other words what a forum like this is designed form  :thumbsup:

We used to have some aircraft recognition boards at home when I was a kid, belonged to my brother and I suspect he still has them, WW2 era they were!!!!

To be fair we are both correct on this as pre 63 the aircraft were known by the name of the building company, IE Hawker, Gloster, Armtsrong-Whitworth etc.

Post 63 They were Hawker Siddeleys so the Hunter being manufactured for as long as was could well have been known by both
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: sybershot on February 16, 2012, 00:13:23 AM
I was given a 3inch thick book from my great grandfather, that was filled with color drawn images of just about every aircraft and there cockpit controls. The cockpit controls were even numbered and below the image it gave the correct term for each gauge and control panel, lever and button. I passed this book onto my oldest son, who loves planes almost as much as I do.

Edit: this is not to start a argument, just to share my opinion >> my opinion on the prettiest fighter is the Russian SU-47
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: sybershot on February 16, 2012, 15:57:30 PM
I cam across this today, and thought you might like to see some of the rc versions
http://www.aviationtrivia.info/Hawker-Hunter.php (http://www.aviationtrivia.info/Hawker-Hunter.php)

at the bottom of the rc images there is
Keith Mitchell and his rc Hawker Hunter. :o
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: GT40 on February 16, 2012, 16:47:09 PM

OMG, is it a sect? No problem.

I belong to the sect of the worshippers of the F-86 Sabre.

And of the Ford GT-40.  :D

Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 17, 2012, 18:47:16 PM
One thing that always amuses me about this aircraft, the build was so British in it's implementation.

I suspect only we could build a fighter aircraft that would cause its engines to flame out if you fired the guns!!!!

Worst of all it took a while to remedy, not a good situation to be in: "Right I'm on his tail, what do I do now because if I shoot I lose the engines!!!!"
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: sybershot on February 17, 2012, 20:10:32 PM
I really hope they did not put them into service before the remedy :o
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 17, 2012, 20:18:36 PM
Being British of course we did  ;D

At the the top of the page go to the thunder and lightnings link and read the history of the Hunter, it has an interesting history with speed records, a very lenghty service history and even a record for most aircraft looped in formation.
Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: sybershot on February 18, 2012, 00:58:31 AM
I read most of it when you first posted it, but I did skim some areas, I must of missed that part when I was skimming. :Head-Slap:

QuoteBeing British of course we did  Grin
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Title: Re: Hawker Hunter
Post by: DD1975 on February 18, 2012, 15:58:58 PM
I loved the early solution, tell the pilots they can only fire the guns at low altitude to prevent the flameouts.

One problem there really, I'm flying a point defence interceptor in the 1950's and the enemy bombers are unlikely to oblige by flying low. My only weapons are the guns so my only tactic to prevent the enemy from completeing their mission is.....ramming!!!!