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Heavens Above => Aviation => Topic started by: DD1975 on April 14, 2012, 11:10:23 AM

Title: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on April 14, 2012, 11:10:23 AM
It seem that there may be 20 more Spits in the world very soon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17710598 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17710598)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Data on April 14, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
Well that is good news, hope they find them.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on April 14, 2012, 12:08:13 PM
Still in the crates they should be in good nick!!
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Data on April 14, 2012, 12:17:50 PM
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing  :)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on April 14, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
The parts would have been well greased, in some cases it may even be just a matter of putting them together!!
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Snowcrash on April 14, 2012, 18:46:24 PM
Stop any sanctions now if they'll give us the Spits.

The sound bite about Burma in the news was...
On a scale of 0-10 on the road to democracy, Burma is approaching 1.

So don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on April 14, 2012, 19:11:09 PM
QuoteA Downing Street source said: "The Spitfire is arguably the most important plane in the history of aviation, playing a crucial role in the Second World War.

They not heard of Hurricanes then ?  Spitfires were great but they always forget...
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on April 14, 2012, 20:09:01 PM
To be fair the hurri's moment came in the battle of Britain (where it downed 2/3 of the total kills of the RAF) and after that was quickly relegated to other theaters and slowly phased out as more modern aircraft came into service.

The Spit lasted the duration of the war and was the backbone of the RAF fighter force.

Sidney Camm, Hawkers chief designer put it the best in my opinion when asked about putting eleptical wings on the Tempest:

"If it didn't look like a Spitfire they wouldn't buy it"

Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Diesel on April 14, 2012, 20:51:47 PM
Not quite Burma, Duxford near to where I live. You may wish to turn the sound up a little for this.  :thumbsup:


16 Spitfires Flying Together The Sound of Victory " Duxford Airshow ". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6c3v9iihgw#ws)

Simply for the pleasure, enjoy. :D
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Snowcrash on April 14, 2012, 21:13:54 PM
Cool vid.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on April 15, 2012, 14:43:05 PM
Amazing vid, I really have to get to Duxford one day  :thumbsup:

Now imagine a wartime squadron was around 12 aircraft, imagine what it would have been like seeing 3 squardons being scrambled from Duxford in 1940!!!

Better yet, imagine W/C Douglas Baders Duxford "Big Wing" of 5 squardons of Hurricanes and Spitfires going over, that would have been so impressive.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: sybershot on April 16, 2012, 01:18:20 AM
I hope they play on flying them in airshows if they find them, and not just stick them in some museum.
Great Video, that is one of those videos that make one say, I wish I could of been there  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on November 29, 2012, 13:11:02 PM
Finally some news on this article, looks like the digging could begin in January 2013.....hope they find out if there is anything there before the monsoon season starts or they might get a tad wet  :D


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20515659 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20515659)

Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: GT40 on November 29, 2012, 16:30:20 PM
 
I hope all the pilots are safe...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8zcQG_2jyIE/TsD1YIHNbwI/AAAAAAAABYs/zAbhK1RijhE/s1600/600full-close-encounters-of-the-third-kind-screenshot.jpg)

Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Data on November 29, 2012, 19:09:33 PM
 :LOL: GT

I saw it on the news that the dig was going ahead, thought of you DD  :)   
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on November 29, 2012, 19:42:26 PM
I shall be watching avidly to see how they get on.........I find this story very interesting as I'd never heard about Spits being buried in Burma before this story broke in April! 

I seriously hope they make a documentary of the digs so we get to see the resyults if they find the aircraft.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Snowcrash on November 29, 2012, 21:49:24 PM
Close encounters of the Merlin kind.

Should be interesting. Look forward to seeing the digs start in Jan. The article I saw on TV said 'all we know is that there is metal there. We can't tell scrap from Spitfires'.
The only way forward now, is to dig.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on January 04, 2013, 21:13:41 PM
Work on the dig due to start:

http://news.sky.com/story/1033323/burma-spitfires-team-to-start-dig-for-lost-planes (http://news.sky.com/story/1033323/burma-spitfires-team-to-start-dig-for-lost-planes)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on January 18, 2013, 15:12:33 PM
Not good news so far:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21074699 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21074699)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on January 18, 2013, 15:20:21 PM
I hope they find something.

I felt enlightened by the image of the Spitfire captioned 'The Spitfire's Winning Design' - great that they thought to put an engine in it...
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on January 18, 2013, 22:08:02 PM
It's even greater when you consider that the Merlin engine wouldn't have been developed at all if it hadn't been for the private funding of Lady Houston who paid £100,000for Rolls Royce to develop the PV 12 engine for the Supermarie S6 (Also designed by RJ Mitchell) Schneider trophy entry in 1931!!
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on February 13, 2013, 16:50:32 PM
Here is the latestet update I can find on this:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/team-still-chasing-spitfire-dream.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/team-still-chasing-spitfire-dream.html)

It would seeem that the Archeologists are still fairly optomistic at this stage.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Snowcrash on February 13, 2013, 17:15:57 PM
I had assumed it was on a slow down due to the political situation in Burma.

Not sure where the troubles are occuring compared to where they are.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on February 16, 2013, 15:17:27 PM
Bummer!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21483187 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21483187)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on February 16, 2013, 15:25:27 PM
   :bottom: Oh well it was worth a try...
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on February 16, 2013, 16:26:17 PM
It did seem a bit too good to be true, but I really was hoping
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on February 24, 2013, 17:45:26 PM
It seems there is life in this story yet:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/myanmars-spitfire-hunter-turns-to-ground-radar.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/myanmars-spitfire-hunter-turns-to-ground-radar.html)

Are we witnessing a modern day "Money pit":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on February 24, 2013, 17:56:48 PM
Did you see this more-close-to-home story about buried Spitfires again...?

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/spitfires-the-new-gold-rush-time-teams-tony-robinson-excited-by-prospect-of-finding-buried-spitfires.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/spitfires-the-new-gold-rush-time-teams-tony-robinson-excited-by-prospect-of-finding-buried-spitfires.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on February 24, 2013, 18:01:10 PM
Naughty me, I glossed over that as I thought is was to do with Burma!!  :Head-Slap:

Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on April 22, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
So after a lull in proceedings we have new developments in this story:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/spitfire-hunter-planning-dig-on-far-east-return.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/spitfire-hunter-planning-dig-on-far-east-return.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on June 04, 2013, 18:25:41 PM
This one is refusing to go away.

A nice picture on this article showing a spitfire flying past either The white cliffs of Dover or Beachyhead in Sussex, a familiar sight to us local boys  :D

This would have been a common sight in the summer of 1940 as both places were right in the thick of the Battle of Britain.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/spitfire-hunter-insists-planes-buried-4039956 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/spitfire-hunter-insists-planes-buried-4039956)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on July 06, 2013, 00:12:07 AM
I said this was going to run and run  ;D

Also I didn't know that there were even as many as 4 two seater spits in the world let alone in the same place as per the picture!!!!!

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/search-for-burma-spitfire-will-go-on-in-2014.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/search-for-burma-spitfire-will-go-on-in-2014.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on July 06, 2013, 12:04:57 PM
There be gold in them thar hills  ;D
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: sybershot on July 06, 2013, 18:58:35 PM
that's awesome  :D
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on July 07, 2013, 22:03:09 PM
So, the guy behind this has secured funing for a second dig probably in December or January on his second site of interest.

The people involved in the previous dig who no longer believe this story have also suggested that if there are crated aircraft buried they are more likey to be Auster aircraft, a general purose mache used for recon.

They appear to be having a little spat about this subject   ;D

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/500k-to-keep-up-spitfire-search.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/500k-to-keep-up-spitfire-search.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on September 01, 2013, 10:56:16 AM
More news on this one, the chap is nothing if not persistant!!!!

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/new-image-holds-key-hunt-5819555 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/new-image-holds-key-hunt-5819555)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: sybershot on September 02, 2013, 00:20:22 AM
fingers crossed
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on September 02, 2013, 16:42:46 PM
Indeed  :)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on October 09, 2013, 21:48:35 PM
And now potential buried spits in Oz:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/press-releases/search-buried-spitfires-live.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/press-releases/search-buried-spitfires-live.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on December 03, 2013, 14:11:34 PM
And now he's secured new funding to proceed with his search:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/press-releases/claridon-group-save-spitfire-project-burma.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/press-releases/claridon-group-save-spitfire-project-burma.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Snowcrash on December 03, 2013, 20:36:25 PM
What's your feeling on this, DD?

To me it's looking more like a wild goose chase but I am sceptic. Formally a cynic.  :-\
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on December 03, 2013, 20:44:57 PM
As I said before I admire his persistence. Are they throwing good money after bad, only time will tell.

There appears to be no official documentation to back this up, especially from the castle bromwich factory that manufactured the MkVIII spits in question as there are no serial numbers unaccounted for.

HOWEVER, the guy claims to have located evidence in the arcives to back up his claim, and it is just possible that a batch of aircraft could have been shipped off to the far east without having been allocated serial numbers first although it would seem unlikely you cannot discount anything in wartime Britain as we weren't as meticlous as the Germans when it came to record keeping.  :LOL:
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on December 16, 2013, 20:16:46 PM
Could be some digging before xmas:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/david-cundalls-search-lost-squadron-spitfires.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/david-cundalls-search-lost-squadron-spitfires.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on December 16, 2013, 21:55:01 PM
I hope his persistence will pay off.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on December 17, 2013, 17:45:03 PM
I hope so, it makes a great story but I also hope it isn't just that.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: sybershot on December 18, 2013, 14:36:21 PM
exciting news, a find like that would be sweet :)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 02, 2014, 20:57:32 PM
New news:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/burma-spitfires-dig-back.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/burma-spitfires-dig-back.html)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 02, 2014, 21:18:47 PM
Nice to see he is sticking to his guns.

I heard a Spitfire today as it happens, was above the clouds, but no mistaking the engine. Probably doing a show or something.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 02, 2014, 22:55:42 PM
Aren't you pretty near Duxford Freddy?
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 02, 2014, 23:02:58 PM
I'm in Norfolk, about 50-60 miles from Duxford. We have the odd display up here. We saw a load of vintage cars on the way home too, so something must have been on somewhere close I think.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 03, 2014, 12:12:22 PM
Been quite a few on I think, I'm hoping to get to Shoreham this year, I might even get to see the Vulcan at last  :D
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 03, 2014, 13:47:33 PM
Is she still flying then ?
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 04, 2014, 18:31:06 PM
http://www.vulcantothesky.org/appearances.html (http://www.vulcantothesky.org/appearances.html)

This years schedule, they managed to raise enough to make the fixes required to keep her aloft for another 2 years
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 04, 2014, 18:35:42 PM
Cool. I had seen that they were running out of money.  There's nothing like seeing her fly, I hope you get to see her 8)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 04, 2014, 21:12:16 PM
I will, if it kills me  :LOL:
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Snowcrash on August 04, 2014, 21:49:35 PM
You want to come down to Shoreham for this years display?

Adult £18, Child £5 on Saturday 30th August. Tickets. (http://tickets.shorehamairshow.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 21, 2014, 19:28:52 PM
http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/hope-fades-burma-search-buried-spitfires.html (http://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/hope-fades-burma-search-buried-spitfires.html)

Latest news not looking so good.

On the plus side I got me tickets to the Shoreham airshow so hopefully I will get to see the Vulcan weather and technical issues not withstanding, and better yet a pair of Lancaster bombers as the Canadian one is over here this year  :woot:
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 21, 2014, 20:16:49 PM
Hope you get to see her. I had read about the Lancasters, I think they were at Clacton today. Would be impressive. I have seen one of them, but not the Canadian one. This will likely never happen again. I'll have to see if there is somewhere closer to me if they are doing a tour.
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 22, 2014, 17:03:52 PM
Sorry for going off topic, but just thought I would drop this in, has a little footage of Clacton. I so wish Lowestoft had not shut down.

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2014-08-22/clacton-air-show-flying-high/ (http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2014-08-22/clacton-air-show-flying-high/)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on August 23, 2014, 12:13:01 PM
What's more impressive is that they flew Vera over from Canada, a 69 year old bomber making a 2600 mile trip  :o

I will try to get plenty of pictures and a bit of video at Shoreham if I can next Saturday  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: Freddy on August 23, 2014, 14:44:14 PM
Would be nice to see the photos and video. Enjoy it :)
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DD1975 on June 21, 2016, 18:53:24 PM
So after  a while of not hearing:

http://www.warhistoryonline.com/featured/british-man-given-permission-dig-hidden-planes-burma.html
Title: Re: Spitfires in Burma
Post by: DaveMorton on June 22, 2016, 02:20:28 AM
That sounds promising. thanks, DD! :thumbsup: