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Heavens Above => Aviation => Topic started by: DD1975 on March 04, 2014, 13:58:52 PM

Title: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: DD1975 on March 04, 2014, 13:58:52 PM
Airships making a comeback as cargo haulers?

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26372277 (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26372277)

Cardington has a long history of association with airships:

The R101 Airship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdPrUBkMgdE#)
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: GT40 on March 04, 2014, 16:48:09 PM

Amazing report with sound! Many thanks DD  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: Freddy on March 04, 2014, 19:42:36 PM
Interesting report, this was on my local news the other day.
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: DD1975 on March 05, 2014, 13:12:39 PM
I find this genuinely interesting, airships are far more environmentally friendly than cargo jet aircraft but only if they can be made commercially viable.......
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: DD1975 on March 05, 2014, 15:57:11 PM
I just found this which I think follows on nicely from the original post  :)

http://gizmodo.com/the-aluminum-airship-of-the-future-has-finally-flown-1301320903 (http://gizmodo.com/the-aluminum-airship-of-the-future-has-finally-flown-1301320903)

And video on this one:

http://rt.com/news/aeroscraft-revolutionary-airship-cargo-187/ (http://rt.com/news/aeroscraft-revolutionary-airship-cargo-187/)
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: sybershot on March 05, 2014, 20:57:08 PM
may it not go kaboom  :P
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: DaveMorton on March 05, 2014, 22:34:27 PM
Um... Don? Helium doesn't "go kaboom". :P
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: Snowcrash on March 05, 2014, 23:00:01 PM
Problem is, we're running out of helium. Hydrogen is much cheaper.
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: DD1975 on March 06, 2014, 09:00:33 AM
A small reminder as to why we stopped using Hydrogen  :P

Hindenburg Disaster Real Footage (1937) [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgWHbpMVQ1U#ws)
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: Snowcrash on March 06, 2014, 18:25:36 PM
Safety is better these days, what with self sealing fuel tanks better monitoring etc.

Given that we are approaching a helium shortage and hydrogen has 4 x the lifting power I feel it should be considered.
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: DaveMorton on March 06, 2014, 18:47:12 PM
Quote from: Snowcrash on March 05, 2014, 23:00:01 PM
Problem is, we're running out of helium. Hydrogen is much cheaper.

We could fix that easily, you know. put the population of the planet underground, trigger an ELE-sized solar flare to hit the Earth head-on, then harvest all of the new, fresh Helium that gets embedded in the surface rocks. Of course, there won't be much in the way of atmosphere at that point, so we'd also have to hand out 7.2Bn environmental suits (probably less, though, since I doubt everyone could survive underground for the length of time required, but that just means more food for everyone else). :P :D
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: Snowcrash on March 06, 2014, 19:11:04 PM
He3 (lighter than He4) can be mined from Jupiter and possibly Saturn, I do believe. Though the round trip may make it a little expensive.

On a reality check note. A modest sized air ship cost upwards of £100,000 to fill with He. Big ones would be in the millions.

Found this site (http://www.airships.net/helium-hydrogen-airships) as a cost/weight comparison.
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: sybershot on March 06, 2014, 22:09:52 PM
QuoteUm... Don? Helium doesn't "go kaboom". Tongue
it could if it got hit by one of these  :P http://www.army-technology.com/projects/surface-launched/images/slamraam_5.jpg (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/surface-launched/images/slamraam_5.jpg)
Title: Re: The longest aircraft in the world
Post by: Data on March 07, 2014, 17:34:49 PM
Did Data post this in the wrong thread  :scratch-head:

Taio Cruz - Higher ft. Travie McCoy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrK6N4db-ik#ws)