Found this video which I found interesting.

I was looking at the 35W G4560T : https://ark.intel.com/products/97465/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560T-3M-Cache-2_90-GHz

This guy compares an Intel stock cooler which turns out crap, with a custom cooler which is okay and then a passive cooler which does a great job, but you'd still need case fans, which you may have anyway.




Price on the passive : https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Alpine-11-Passive-Pre-Applied/dp/B01ARGVZBE

Hmmm but if you not overclocking then the intel coolers are fine.

Yes true, but interesting I thought - that you can get away without a noisy CPU fan...

Well the intel fans only spin up fast when the CPU is under heavy load (if set correctly in BIOS), under normal desktop use they tend to be very quiet from my experience. With a passive cooler you are going to need more case fans 

Yes true. I just recall when I used to use the CPU to do rendering and then it sounded like a hovercraft. This is his point - he was doing video processing which ties up the CPU of course in a similar way.

In general day to day like internet and stuff it's not a biggy though I agree. Swings and roundabouts there.

But I do find the background noise of fans will make my tinnitus worse. Since I got this water cooler and now the low level fans it no longer bothers me so much.

Actually watching that video the guy has something wrong there, I have an i5 slightly overclocked on the Intel cooler and my temps don't go over 70 even in the summer   

My GPU fans are louder than the CPU cooler when gaming too.

Yes he calibrated it wrongly he mentioned in one of the comments - it still stands on relative cooling as it was the same for all of them

All I am saying is that when I had a stock cooler because I am near to it (I believe yours is on the floor still) then after 40 minutes of hearing a crappy fan spin then my ears start ringing 

Too many gigs 

My PC is very quiet, for a start it's in a nice cube case, better for cooling and I have the fans set in BIOS to silent mode even the PSU fan.

I know what you mean about loud fans but if you know what your doing the only loud fans will be the GPU's when under heavy load.

Mine is usually quiet too - I'm talking about under full load. Many nights I went to bed with ringing ears after doing a lot of rendering, I'm not making it up for the sake of it honestly. 

Don't you render with the GPU ?

I do now dude, but I was talking about the past...

QuoteI just recall when I used to use the CPU to do rendering and then it sounded like a hovercraft.

I forget now exactly when I swapped over to just GPU, when Iray was added to Daz I think, a while ago now. The GPU still raises the noise but not the level I remember from the CPU. And really the point there is that GPU takes far far less time to render so you aren't subjected to prolonged noise.

But try rendering with 4 or 6 cores 100% CPU for 40 minutes with a bog standard CPU fan and tell me you don't notice the noise if you are sat next to it and I will bow down before you

I'm off to bed, cya in the morning my friend

I guess it's horse for course and I admit not all systems are the same, newer CPU's don't get as hot and need less cooling especially if you don't overclock or overvolt them.

For me the GPU fans are the loudest thing in my system but like I said not all systems are equal.

I'm off to bed too, nite mate. 

Interesting, I have a big oversized heatsink, lots of fans all blowing into the case. Pretty quite not sure what will happen when a graphics card goes in.
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QuoteI guess it's horse for course and I admit not all systems are the same, newer CPU's don't get as hot and need less cooling especially if you don't overclock or overvolt them.

I think so yes. Like anything there are good and bad fans. If I do a render on the CPU the noise level still goes up a bit even now, but it's more a whooshy sound and less annoying than a stock. If it hadn't been for the old CPU fan being so noisy I would not have looked into water cooling in the first place.

I thought it was just an interesting experiment he showed.