Since the strange lack of updates for Fraps (it does not work on 10) I went looking for an alternative.

Having learnt my lesson before I felt commercial ones were the safest bet - CamStudio, Debut and many others install malware or a lot of junk.

Anyway, found this : http://www.bandicam.com/

It's $39 or about £25.

I haven't bought it yet - I'm trying out the demo.

So far I've only used it to help make that video about TalkTalk. But the screen recorder works well and will also record audio. It worked fine with the sound card and video card. You can capture a region on the screen easily, which is what I needed.

I've yet to try out the game recording, but thought others may be interested in it.

I still haven't used it but doesn't windows 10 come with a screen recorder ?

I don't think it can capture the desktop but it can capture apps that are running.

Even better thanks 

 Live and learn, Win 10 has a screen recorder, very nice Data.  At least Freddy knows about the junk included in downloads.  I had to find a Rar extractor and after looking for a free one that would not stop working I tried downloading some, the majority were deleted after downloading because defender found malware in them.  I did download one and after installing it I found it put a search bar at the top of the desktop, removed after using Programs and features, the search bar was removed and the extract portion still worked.
Carl2