If it's anything like charging a phone, then there are peaks and troughs during the charging.

Yeah Dave and Freddy, good points.

Some weird and wonderful plug-in cars in this years Geneva motor show:

Tesla has had someone killed while using autopilot  and this is after Tesla has a factory recall because of problems with corrosion on the bolts used for steering.  Stocks are at an all time low.
Carl2

Quote from: Carl2 on April 01, 2018, 17:18:04 PM
Tesla has had someone killed while using autopilot...

That sounds a little dark, Carl, and could be misconstrued as intent. A better way to say that would be, "A person died while driving a Tesla while using autopilot..."

Yes be careful there Carl, have to agree with Dave, the way you worded that might get some undesired attention.

It's good that Tesla recalled the cars with the defective bolts, they are still on-top of their game and trying to do the right thing.   

I'm just going to plonk this video in here, why ? because I like the music

 

My comment could have been worded better,  really shouldn't be a problem though.
  I think there were audio problems, no mike input explaining what we were seeing.  Maybe it should be with the music videos, joke.
Carl2

I haven't watched this yet, but from the source and title, I felt it worthy of sharing.

Been following this story closely.

I've never done more then 1 rapid charge a day in my 2015 Leaf, don't need the mileage and always do my first charge at home at 7kW anyway.

To put this into perspective, if you do your first charge at home then you should be able to do 450 miles before any of the fast charging throttling kicks in.

I'm actually happy that Nissan added this feature to the car rather than damage the battery.     

A little look at where we are with Hydrogen Fuel Vehicles, I found it interesting.

Just a couple of quick comments on the last video I posted "Hydrogen Fuel Vehicles".

Cost, it would seem that fueling a Hydrogen car is roughly the same price as fueling an ICE car, no cost savings, no monetary incentive to switch, money talks, it's a big hit to Hydrogen powered cars.

Internal combustion engine = 16 pence per mile. 

Hydrogen fuel = 17 pence per mile.

Fully electric - 3 pence per mile.


Battery, Hydrogen cars are also fitted with a lithium ion battery, it would seem that you can't get away without using some kind of battery on any form of electric car even hydrogen powered electric.

while I don't think that H2 EV's will ever become a "major contender" in the EV market, I'm not quite ready to count them out, either. I won't spout that whole "petrol will get more scarce, and Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe" crap, because it's just that; crap. While the statements are true, the time scale for petrol scarcity is too long to yet be a factor, and while Hydrogen is, indeed the most abundant thing ever, it's not exactly easy or cheap to collect it at scale right now, so those really aren't factors that will (or should) matter at the moment. One thing that comes to mind when I think of H2 collection/processing is a seemingly unrelated thing; a book by Arthur C. Clark and Gentry Lee, entitled "The Garden of Rama". I won't get into the whole story (it's a fascinating read, and well worth looking into if you've a love of Sci Fi, which, oddly enough is available on YouTube, of all places, as an audio book), but one section of the story described "artificial trees" that provided O₂ to the "passengers" on this truly massive ship, which, although never discussed, I believe also collected Hydrogen to at least help power the vessel. I bring this up because with the massive deforestation of our planet going on as we sit here discussing EV tech and such, and it strikes me that these "artificial trees" could be a massive benefit, since we Humans can't seem to be good stewards of our currently only home.

Ok, I got sidetracked, and began to ramble. you really shouldn't let me to that, as I'll expound for hours on the subject without any real substance being created. Suffice it to say I think that HFC EVs will be a small part of our transportation future for a very long time to come.

[edit]BTW, if you decide to listen to the audiobook, there's about 8 minutes or so of dialog that isn't the book itself. the story actually starts around 8:09. [/edit]

Thanks for the link Dave, when I get the time I will be sure to follow it 

I agree with you about H2 EV's, not going to right them off just yet, they might play a part in future of transport but I also think they have already lost the race to battery powered EVs regarding family cars. All the signs are there now, battery EV is coming of age.

Moving on, I wasn't going to post this video because we have been there many times before "Are Electric Cars Good For The Environment?" on balance I think we have proved it now that EVs are considerably better for the environment and we can put that argument to bed. However this video shows how well we did (the UK) in 2017 regarding renewable energy and how reliant we still are on coal, some good info there. The guy has done his research.

Wow! Only 7%? That's amazing! The figure for the US is more like 30% (in 2016, the most recent figure I can find, so far), but if you factor in the other carbon-based electricity sources (petroleum, natural gas, etc.), that rate more than doubles to 65%! the remaining 35% is split between nuclear (20%) and renewables (wind, solar, etc. - 15%), so we Yanks have a long way to go, but I expect we'll get there some day. It may  just take us a long time to do so.

I was pretty blown away by the 7% figure too, shouldn't have been too surprised though, we are dismantling the old coal power stations at a nice rate.

I'm sure you guys over the pond will get there, you have a much larger and probably more complicated infrastructure than we do, of course it will take longer to change but I have faith that you will get there. 15% renewable energy already, it shows that the will is there 

Just going to bung in the latest Fully Charged vid: