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Started by Data, August 31, 2015, 11:33:53 AM

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Carl2

  Finishing up my list of items to purchase and I took a look at the desktops being sold again and ran across a Cyberpower with the six core CPU,  selling for about 1000 which is 500 less than my build. the motherboard uses the Intel x99 chipset. Hopefully Data will explain what
PCI Slots (Available/Total)    (3/4) PCI-E x16 (Gen 3)
                                          (2/3) PCI-E x1 (Gen 3)
                                          (1/1) PCI
The above means
  there is no mention of the M.2 and I'm not sure if we have full use of a PCI E for a PCI SSD.   
Carl2

Data

Carl2 could you post a link to the PC, I will have a closer look if that's possible.

Carl2

Data,
  I had meant to do that,  I began looking at cases, dvd's and a card reader.   Here is the link:    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230013
after a good nights sleep I think it means 3 of the total 4 PCI E 3 slots are available.  Rather be sure though.
  Here is a gadget since I do like the card readers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5XU1Y30091&cm_re=computer_internal_card_reader-_-9SIA5XU1Y30091-_-Product
  It also monitors the temp which I'm concerned about, I'd chosen water cooling while they must be going with air cooling.
Carl2

Data

I see that the PC has the same graphics card as me and I have to say it's been perfectly stable and runs all my games in 1080 very well  :thumbsup:

AMD Radeon R9 270 2GB

Been trawling around the web for full motherboard specifications and I can't find them, this is the problem with pre builds, all it says is X99, we need to know the make and model. I can't stress this enough, the mobo is the most important part of the PC.

You would be ok to add a PCIe to M.2 expansion card but I believe you would need the 8 core CPU to get the full speed out of it because of the lanes issue, I can't be sure because again we are not being given full specs.

In a perfect world you should have the M.2 slot on the motherboard really, you could post a question on the sites in the Q&A tab on this page:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230013

And ask if it has an M.2 slot, if it doesn't I would look for one that does. 

Carl2

Data
  They have 10 or so models with the 5820 CPU listed at various prices at Newegg.  The cyberpower website is not showing the 1000 dollar model, and it starts with a 1289 that is using a MSI X99S SLI Krait motherboard    Link    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/category/gaming-pcs/
  a quick look and it seems you can customize everything, case, gpu motherboard
  just did a google search for it and it is not to be found, tried support a phone number is given and also a login forum.
Carl2

Data



Carl2

The lower priced does not mention a M.2 adaptor, but the higher priced pc says it has one.  Since the lower priced can not be found on their website we can only guess about it.  I'm thinking of going into the pci slot anyways, why not.
  I've already got enough led lights  not to mention the bulbs in the celling lighting fixtures.
Carl2

Data

#23
Quote from: Carl2 on September 03, 2015, 15:15:03 PM
I'm thinking of going into the pci slot anyways, why not.

I can think of a few reasons.

You will have 2 lots of connections that could get dirty over time, first the PCIe to the motherboard and then the M.2 to PCIe, using an M.2 socket on the motherboard is more direct.

Heat, putting the M.2 in a PCIe will place it closer to the hot graphics card.

If you are going to do this with a new PC you should really consider doing it the modern way, adding in a PCIe card is really for older motherboards that are not compatible with M.2.

In for a penny in for a pound  :)

Freddy

Yeah I would agree on the heat thing - I don't like having any PCI slots used, I worry too much about the GPU getting too warm. I have a chassis fan blowing air onto the GPU as well as the fans on it.

Carl2

  I'm jumping around and was able to find the pic of the M.2 in SSD's and  it is located on the motherboard.  I'm thinking my use of the computer is not hard at all on the gpu, maybe it gets warm.  I began wondering what I could do with the HP PCIE bus,  I know HP has there MB made for them by another unknown company, it would be the quickest way to try this out and since it has no M.2 it's PCI. The HP is 2 yrs old wonder what the buss speed is.  The CPU is i7 4470 which takes a LGA 1150 MB  On the MB's ( at Newegg and not the HP MB ) shown there is the 6 Gbs and a z97 and z87, all have PCI Express 3.0 x16.
  Here are some links on what is going on        http://www.goplextor.com/Product/Detail/M6e_M.2_2280#/Review
  also
http://www.modders-inc.com/kingston-hyperx-predator-pcie-ssd/
   I read some of the reviews about the higher priced 5820 and I'm not impressed by what I read.
  Hope what I wrote makes sense, what do you think?
Carl2

Freddy

Got any links to the reviews on the 5820 ?

I'm running a 5820K at 4GHz and it's really fast. Doing the same renders as compared to my old 4 core, the 5820K is much faster.

We did some benchmarks a few weeks back, this is mine....

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/327811

Carl2

 Very good reviews for the 5820, here is the link to newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402
I'm looking at motherboards and now that I think of it I should be looking at this gateway and not the HP.  Must be bored both computers do very well but I find it very interesting.
  I never did much on OC,  probably used to reading the specs and working within there limits.  I think I saw some reviews where people got it up to 4.4 so you should be fine.  Sounds like a very nice rig with the bench marks to prove it, wish you the best of luck with it
Carl2

Data

Quote from: Freddy on September 03, 2015, 23:22:42 PM
I'm running a 5820K at 4GHz and it's really fast. Doing the same renders as compared to my old 4 core, the 5820K is much faster.

We did some benchmarks a few weeks back, this is mine....

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/327811

Yes that really is a mighty benchmark score, them renders must fly   8)

I know you pay a lot of money for the unlocked K type CPU's but if you want to clock your rig up then there is no other serious option at the moment. 

I've been clocking computers since the 90's, both CPU's and GPU's, it can be a lot of fun but you do need to know what you are doing. It's is a lot easier these days with the nice motherboards available - the good ones have built in overclock settings.

I do more under-clocking than over-clocking these days, many of the games I play don't really need the GPU and VRAM running at top speed, I can normally run them at about 50% to save power and reduce heat production.

There is no point overclocking unless you really need to, the power consumption starts to increase and the CPU is less efficient, yeah it's faster but can take a lot more power on full load. 4Ghz sounds like a nice sweet spot to me.

If we forget money then them X99 rigs with 6 or 8 core CPU's and their quad channel RAM are the way to go, now add to that a full speed M.2 port and you could rule the world  :D

Freddy

Quote from: Carl2 on September 04, 2015, 01:47:46 AM
I never did much on OC,  probably used to reading the specs and working within there limits.  I think I saw some reviews where people got it up to 4.4 so you should be fine.  Sounds like a very nice rig with the bench marks to prove it, wish you the best of luck with it
Carl2

I'd read 4.3GHz in a few places, had not seen 4.4 yet  :D

Renders do fly, especially the old renderer. To get the some of my results on my old PC would have taken a much longer time.

It is a lot of money, but I think it was worth it.

What I like about the OC is it only goes to 4Ghz when it needs to and I think (from watching CPUz) that when it's slower it underclocks.

Add the two new monitors to my system and I have something I always wanted and drooled over ;D